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Post by tqisfoo on Jul 25, 2005 15:30:48 GMT 10
I wish I loved women at times. So do I. *sigh* ;D
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Post by marysunshine on Jul 25, 2005 15:30:51 GMT 10
Imagine if you will, a male poster from this forum posting an image of a man kneeing a woman in the groin. She buckles in pain at his 'abuse'.
Sometimes it's an advantage being a poor wittle female.
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Post by 4213 on Jul 25, 2005 15:39:13 GMT 10
I wish I loved women at times. So do I. *sigh* ;D Sorry babes. Cruel is nature.
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Post by Meg on Jul 25, 2005 15:43:23 GMT 10
I think we answered the question between us. It's a difficult question to answer because it hasn't been a level playing field. As more women take on engineering they may be designing tunnels and bridges, who knows?
It's dangerous for women to go down the road of listing things men are good at and things women are good at. Inevitably historical evidence will come into it and women fall short when it comes to creative achievements. We get told we are better at nurturing and empathy and minuate, all qualities that lead straight back to the nursery or the typing pool.
So all I can say is that to this point men have been more creative. But are they inherently more creative? The question remains unanswered.
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Post by 4213 on Jul 25, 2005 15:51:44 GMT 10
Chefs.
There is an example.
Hairdressers.
Another.
Perhaps the women have been far too busy looking after children and stroking their husbands.
The worm will turn.
bwahahaha
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Post by sirius on Jul 25, 2005 15:59:10 GMT 10
I think we answered the question between us. It's a difficult question to answer because it hasn't been a level playing field. As more women take on engineering they may be designing tunnels and bridges, who knows? It's dangerous for women to go down the road of listing things men are good at and things women are good at. Inevitably historical evidence will come into it and women fall short when it comes to creative achievements. We get told we are better at nurturing and empathy and minuate, all qualities that lead straight back to the nursery or the typing pool. So all I can say is that to this point men have been more creative. But are they inherently more creative? The question remains unanswered. Yes they are. It's been answered twice on this topic, I will extract it for you.
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Post by sirius on Jul 25, 2005 16:05:05 GMT 10
Why are women not more important in history as geniuses? The usual assumption is that women have not had access to education and have not had the opportunity to excel. However, there is a real difference in brain design -- women tend to have more balanced brains, whereas men tend to have more specialized brains. To understand this section, it is important to have read the previous section on "balanced" brains
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Post by 4213 on Jul 26, 2005 12:28:28 GMT 10
Do you think it will take a while for men to accept female changes though. Even though I do accept a difference in our genetic structure, and I'm not expecting us all to be some hybrid he/she eventually, I think attitudes are terrible due to the misunderstanding of the male and the female.
When the first PCs were brought in I took a screw driver and examined the components of the PCBs etc and what went where. I installed an internal modem which is as simple as slotting in a card into an envelope, you just adjust the jumpers to instructions in a manual. Not rocket science, but very satisfying. My boss flipped at me doing this, the very sight of me having a screwdriver sent him wild. This was 20 years ago however. Recently I had a new PC delivered on my desk and all the guys ran to put it together for me. I was furious as I am excited as they are at putting together the new components etc. I growled at them. Seems they still see women as the weaker sex.
But we can use this to our advantage. About a month later I had to move desks and couldn't be bothered to put it together. One of the guys ran to my assistance and did it for me and I sat back and let him LOL. My girlfriend looked at me in disbelief, but the guy was totally happy to do this for me?
What is the correct way?
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Post by sirius on Jul 26, 2005 15:03:53 GMT 10
As you say replacing computer cards and boards is not difficult on most P.C's these days.
I think you handled it right in both instances actually because had you been a bit slow in assembling it, it would have left you vulnerable.
If you had said to me," let me try first and if I get it wrong you can then help" I would not have thought any less of you if you had messed it up.
But if you said "I'll do it , I don't want help" and got it wrong then maybe I would have a chuckle.
But if you got it right after refusing my offer of help, I would have gained respect for you as well.
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Post by sirius on Jul 26, 2005 15:06:04 GMT 10
Oh and happy birthday TQ
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Post by sirius on Jul 26, 2005 15:13:39 GMT 10
4213, as for men accepting changes in women you will find only insecure males have any problem with it.
Let me speak from the heart here.
If I beat you in a wrestling match it would give me no satisfaction whatsoever.
If you beat me at chess I would be no more miffed had you been a man.
If you beat me in a wrestling match I would be mortified more so than had you been a man.
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Post by 4213 on Jul 26, 2005 15:32:19 GMT 10
4213, as for men accepting changes in women you will find only insecure males have any problem with it. Let me speak from the heart here. If I beat you in a wrestling match it would give me no satisfaction whatsoever. If you beat me at chess I would be no more miffed had you been a man. If you beat me in a wrestling match I would be mortified more so than had you been a man. Very well put. Yes, I now realise about the insecurity in males. I think I thought it was me, and let's face it I'm a perfect 10. I think the Stepford Wives was an interesting take on the male and female roles. Do you think, fundamentally that males really do want to keep their me man you woman status? If your wife was more successful in status than you, could you cope? If she earned more money, or was more powerful? If she ran her own Company could you be by her side and be proud for her?
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Post by sirius on Jul 26, 2005 17:54:31 GMT 10
I know a few guys who married well and to be honest everytime I see one of them I wonder if it was love or money. As for me no I would not be happy especially if I was even slightly dependent on her. I would probably not mind as much if I worked with her or even for her and was earning my keep or better still adding to and improving the business.
Overall the answer is no.
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Post by 4213 on Jul 26, 2005 18:27:20 GMT 10
Too tall an order isn't it.
So if the woman gave it all up, how would she cope?
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Post by Test Card Girl on Jul 26, 2005 19:07:52 GMT 10
Women were expected to give it all up once upon a time - they coped. Their job was the husband,the kids and the house. And some women find that fulfiling. Personally, if that was all that I had in my life, that would drive me mad. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy my family but there's more to my life than that.
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