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Post by ganesha on Oct 21, 2006 12:24:26 GMT 10
Have you heard about this AUstralian Idol Podcast out there? Apparently its really good.
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Post by Test Card Girl on Oct 22, 2006 13:56:53 GMT 10
Thanks for the Up Close and Personal podcast. I think Bobby's Any Means as played on the myspace site is a better song than The Boy Had Trouble. I like what he does with the arrangement - the variation in the mood of the music with the lyrics. Just something simple like having a rising melody in the guitar part under the lyrics "packing up and letting go" or whatever. I'm also hopelessly sentimental and the song appeals to me that way. It's very wistful. The Tinalley song reminded me of "alternative" guitar-based 80s bands. It also reminded me of the Hoodoo Gurus. Everything old is new again. Of course all that music was derivative from the 60s and back it goes so on and so on. I didn't really take to that Tinalley song - the chorus was a bit jarring for me - but yes, good luck to them and their songwriting.
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Post by babooshka on Oct 22, 2006 15:07:45 GMT 10
His latest three albums have been timeless classics that defy our modern approach to albums, hence the title. Again, unmarketable? Hmmm, didnt this album go to Number 1. Yes, because I specifically referred to his latest three albums as being inclusive in those he made whilst attempting to be unmarketable. And yes, I do have The Basement Tapes. It would be in my top few albums of his, and would be my favourite album by The Band.
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Post by Test Card Girl on Oct 22, 2006 20:34:58 GMT 10
Nice to read another recommendation for The Basement Tapes which will be making it's way to my letter box at some stage.
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Post by ganesha on Oct 22, 2006 21:39:23 GMT 10
How can the Basement Tapes be your favourite album by The Band? Its a Dylan album, The Bands contribution should not be over emphasised here. How could you choose their mainly backing contributions to Dylan songs over Robbie Robertsons own ground breaking songs and consequent recordings? Big Pink and Self Titlet changed the landscape of music and still does, while most people never heard these basement songs until a few years later. The Basement tapes is not an album, it is a study, and thats what makes it fascinating. To put the basement versions of This wheels on fire or Tears of rage up against their Pink versions is frankly batty.
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Post by ifyouseekay on Oct 22, 2006 22:30:18 GMT 10
It's a bit like the Emperors New Clothes isn't it? You'd be afraid to say you don't like Dylan in case you reveal yourself as 'ignorant'. Isn't anyone allowed to have personal preferences without being judged a music philistine? I totally agree with this statement. Other than being a part of history a long time ago he is of little significance to the average person today. He rested on his laurels to much! The last time I watched Dylan perform Soybomb jumped up on stage and was more entertaining!
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Post by Test Card Girl on Oct 22, 2006 23:58:41 GMT 10
Oh God,If! That's hilarious. WHEN and WHERE?
I don't agree with your first statement, by the way. His music still expresses a lot to me and I can relate to a lot of the emotions he conveys in his music.
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Post by ganesha on Oct 23, 2006 11:06:47 GMT 10
[/quote] I totally agree with this statement. Other than being a part of history a long time ago he is of little significance to the average person today. He rested on his laurels to much! The last time I watched Dylan perform Soybomb jumped up on stage and was more entertaining! [/quote] Who decided that he was supposed to be of significance to anyone but himself? He never gave a shit about that kind of nonsense and no artist should. And to actually say that of all people, Bob Dylan rested on his laurels, well i dont know how to answer such a thing. If there was one singer out there that never ever clung to past successes he is the one. He is the epitome of NOT resting on his laurels. For about a year people were going to his concerts to boo at him because he refused to be categorised as a folk singer. Then he became a country singer, then a gospel singer, then a blues singer. Bob Dylan never gave a flying f*$k about what the average person thought of his work nor about his part in 'history'.
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Post by gem on Oct 24, 2006 21:13:17 GMT 10
Podcasts are too long IMO. Cut out the fillers. I think the ideal length is 15 - 20 minutes.
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Post by gem on Oct 24, 2006 21:14:53 GMT 10
It's a bit like the Emperors New Clothes isn't it? You'd be afraid to say you don't like Dylan in case you reveal yourself as 'ignorant'. Isn't anyone allowed to have personal preferences without being judged a music philistine? I totally agree with this statement. Other than being a part of history a long time ago he is of little significance to the average person today. He rested on his laurels to much! The last time I watched Dylan perform Soybomb jumped up on stage and was more entertaining! I don't really have a strong opinion about Dylan. Like some of his songs, don't like his singing. My point was that NOT liking him doesn't make you ignorant. It comes down to personal taste.
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Post by ganesha on Oct 24, 2006 22:21:18 GMT 10
To quote Zeds - yawn
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Post by gem on Oct 24, 2006 22:25:03 GMT 10
That's what I was doing when I was listening to your latest podcast. Unnecessary 'intervals' that add nothing.
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Post by ganesha on Oct 24, 2006 22:54:56 GMT 10
There are a few reasons for the length of time. Firstly, i am old enough to be aware of how everything nowadays has to be quick and punchy. But frankly I miss the days where taking time to discuss and debate was a good thing, where people didnt have the attention span of a gnat on speed. Podcasts live WNYC and the ABC's music show are often around the 25 minute mark. I love that they take the time. Secondly, we enjoy our banter, we enjoy making the ads and the silly bits, because we are doing this podcast for us first, and others second. The fact that we have got so many people listening has been a bit of a surprise, and it keeps going up every week. Thirdly, we have JOBS! We have lives other than spending days trying to edit this podcast. Its time consuming enough. Its supposed to be fun, and funnily enough nobody is paying us Rove's wage to make this a professional series. We do try to watch the time, if it goes over, we dont lose sleep. It takes time to perfect real time checking of conversations, we are working on it.
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Post by Test Card Girl on Oct 24, 2006 23:06:32 GMT 10
You may have mentioned this in a podcast but are you and Kram recording your conversations from different locations now? Are you not speaking in the same room anymore?
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Post by gem on Oct 25, 2006 7:16:34 GMT 10
Maybe the solution is to make parts 1 and 2 if you go overtime. Tim Brunero does if the interview is a long one.
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